Nate Joseph on Meta-Analysis and the Scientific Principles of Teaching – Education Rickshaw

Somehow, someway, we are now on episode 9 of year 2 of the Progressively Incorrect podcast!

Nowadays I have the complete satisfaction of talking with the unbelievable Nate Joseph, the writer of the Scientific Principles of Teaching (look at out this page for all his publications) Nate is a lover of secondary meta-assessment, a methodology popularized by Dr. John Hattie in his e book Obvious Understanding. For a lot of educators, Hattie’s investigate has become the to start with and most immediate entry place into the proof-based training motion, which I certainly support. Nevertheless, in recent years, Hattie’s methods have appear beneath a good deal of hearth and criticism. For example, listen to this quote from the late Robert Slavin’s site:

A meta-assessment can not be any much better than the research that go into it. Hattie’s claims are deeply misleading due to the fact they are primarily based on meta-analyses that on their own accepted experiments of all amounts of excellent. Evidence matters in training, now much more than ever. Yet Hattie and other folks who uncritically take all research, very good and poor, are undermining the worth of evidence. This requires to quit if we are to make sound progress in academic exercise and plan.

No make any difference how you slice it, it seems problematic to mush a bunch of crummy scientific tests with each other to build an outcome dimension, and say that this is definitive evidence that something will work greater than something else. In our discussion, Nate addresses a lot of of the criticisms of Hattie’s operate, though providing strategies that his solution to secondary meta-investigation increases upon, and eliminates a lot of of the flaws, of some of Hattie’s earlier do the job. The most effective aspect of our discussion, on the other hand, is how Nate is capable to leverage his knowledge as a instructor to convey to the story guiding the proof that constitutes the science of studying and math.

So sit back again, unwind, and appreciate Year 2 Episode 9 of the Progressively Incorrect Podcast, showcasing Nate Joseph.

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